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Hierbij een interessant topic op bokt over de verkooppraktijken van Vivian K.
Ik laat me er verder niet over uit maar kan me er (helaas uit ervaring) volledig bij aansluiten...



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VRESELIJK zeg dat verhaal.

En dan te bedenken dat ik een half jaar geleden, nog met haar in onderhandeling was voor evt. een merens. Ben ik even blij dat ik het niet gedaan heb.

Ik hoop echt dat vivian k. aangepakt gaat worden.


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Hopenlijk kunnen er op deze manier veel mensen gewaarschuwd worden want als je de website van de betreffende dame bekijkt krijg je een heel andere indruk!

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Ik schrik me kapot bij het lezen van dit alles

Onze merens zou naar haar toe gaan.

Ik kreeg via marktplaats haar gegevens onder ogen en we kregen een emailcontact. Heb haar zelfs telefonisch gesproken. Ze was heel aardig.
Ik stuurde haar foto's van onze merens en ze zei:"Wat een prachtdier, laat hem maar eens hier komen dan maken we hem keuringsklaar en laten we hem eens keuren door een franse jury. Zo'n mooi paard moeten we bij het merensras niet laten lopen."
(Nou wordt dit door paardenkenners meer tegen ons gezegd dat we een bijzonder mooi paard hebben dus...............)
Ons paard zou dus een aantal weken, misschien maanden, bij haar staan. We deden het niet omdat we het dier niet zolang missen konden.
Tja en dan lees ik nu de negatieve verhalen.............ik schrik me kapot.


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Wat vreselijk!! Voor hetzelfde geld had ik deze zomer ook bij haar gezetten in paats van bij Annebel.. de haren vliegen me overeind bij deze verhalen.. gelukkig komen de paardjes zoals Noumea nog wel goed terecht...
Maar zo blijven we haar ook aan haar handel helpen.... vreselijk!!!!!


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Ik heb het verhaal inderdaad ook gelezen. Voor die tijd had ik ook al veel verhalen gehoord over hoe het er daar aan toe gaat.
Dat dit uberhaupt nog gebeurd.

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Hoi Marjolein,

Vreselijk hè, die verhalen. Maar goed dat wij daar samen wat paardjes hebben gered, nietwaar? Die leven nu als God in Frankrijk....

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haha, nou inderdaad. Ik moet er ook niet aan denken dat quinoa daar nu nog zou staan.

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Hee wat super zeg, dat is in ieder geval 1 stap in de goed richting.

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Answer from the rancher...


A few long lines directed to those of you who love to make a storm in a
glass of water.

Ranch Cercós has thousands of happy customers every year who do lots of different sports including horse-riding.

The horse section, over the last 20 years has offered an excellent
opportunity to hundreds of young people from all over Europe and beyond to travel and learn something about the catalan way of life, culture and language. It turns out to be a positive and very enjoyable experience for most. and I can tell you, quite a few of them keep coming back every season.

They are spirited with a passion , with a brain, and displa the right
attitude towards fellow trainees or people of different nationalities
working on the ranch(including Asian, European of South American descent).

I personally enjoy taking them on occasinal flight tours on our plane around the region, water skiing or big game fishing on our boat or to national or local fiestas in Barcelona or Sitges. We consider them our friends, and we do not refer to them as"trainee" or "tourists"

Of course, these options are not available on your day of arrival. Young
people often think that everyone ought to treat them like mom and dad, clear up their mess and pick up their dirty plates behind them. This false
illusion is short-lived. In the real world, you have to show your
credentials, skills and personal resources. This is the purpose of the whole exercice.

Having say that, we cannot take everyone onboard and therefore we do not encourage daddy´s girls to come and spend a single day on the ranch as a means to break away from parents, boyfriends or personal problems, taking us for a free holiday destination and cheating about their age, weight and experience with horses. We give plenty of second chances. If you cannot even tie up a horse, you can be forgiven by just telling that you are willing to learn.. And do not tell me about evolution or generation gap, I am a father of a 12 years old and she can give the spin to most of this gang of rotten apple in their twenties. But this is another debate that focuses more on educational values and priorities. The fact is that if you feed your
children with straw, you take the risk to turn them into donkeys..

So keep up the good job, Evelien, Tatiana and company, telling everyone how nasty Vivian is, making you work so hard with the boys around the swimming pool, feeding the horse twice a day and starving you to death despite all the time you spent around the clock in the kitchen, cooking fancy recipes( and judging from the weight you all put on you could hardly call the red cross to your rescue) with an industrial fridge and freezer packed with food. By the way, we do not handcuff young girls on the ranch and a 50? flight ticket home is no big deal if you feel it is not the right place for you.

Well, that's all from me. My final advice..Gear up for the real life and
good luck to all.

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Another comment from the rancher.

Special thanks to all those who cared to drop a line and try to get to the bottom of this. I am quite frankly impressed by the interest that our ranch stirs up. We shall try to answer everyone in due course. We find quite significant that so many people are wise enough not to be fooled by a handful of unleashed rottweilers or misguided loving souls. Although we are convinced of your good intentions, we do not need any support or gathering of evidence in regards with inadequate trainees. Your personal experiences can be inserted in any forum : Bokt, Cavaletti, Ride on! etc

We are pleased and grateful to receive all your applications, but due to some special circumstances we can only consider applicants who agree to make an appointment for a personal interview on our ranch in France or in Spain. The next vacancies will be for the next holiday season starting in April . Vivian Klaassen will help with any question.


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Owh da's gezellig, nu komen ze ook al hier.... :? :p

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The rancher says goodbye to this forum!!!


Time has come to say goodbye and wish good luck to this forum. It is also an opportunity to say hello to my Dutch friends in the horse business who quietly check in this forum and to our customers who keep their trust in us and know that we breed some of the finest Merens horses in France and in Spain. Finally, my thanks to all those who took part with their spontaneous reactions. It is my pleasure to add a striking note of discord by saying that if a handful of poor souls can turn this forum into a chicken house, it is not a mere coincidence but the results of an orchestrated move to keep in the dark as many people as possible so that they grow like mushrooms with very spongy heads. My tip: Check your sources and do not let your ignorance play in the hands of a few. Ask real questions if you want useful answers. Ie: What are the advantages of Merens horses bred in the French or Spanish Pyrenees? How much stronger are they? Who makes it so difficult for European breeders to sell their products in the Netherlands and why?
Visit a true open Forum such as Ride On or Cavaletti , free of taboos or
ban!!.Alternatives are the only way to go forward.
Finally for those of you still wondering about Ranch Cercós, I suggest that
you ditch into your pocket for 1? each and delegate someone to book a flight and visit us. Vivian and her hard working trainees will be delighted to show you around.

That's all for now. Happy ride, Folks!!


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Foto's van de paarden!



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